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Most people want to place Eden near the Euphrates. They still come up black. As stated the artifacts support Africa, not Erech or Irag or Babili.



Who cares what most people want to do? Who cares what THEY say (who ever "they" are)

Simply look at the names of the places and rivers and see if you can find them in Africa.


GENESIS 2:8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden

GENESIS 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it was parted, and became into four heads.

GENESIS 2:11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which surrounds the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;


Pishon or Poison Most likely the Indus river in W. Pakistan

Havi'lah The sand region.

A land mentioned in Gen. 2:11 rich in gold and bdellium and onyx stone.

It may perhaps be identified with the sandy tract which skirts Babylonia along the whole of its western border, stretching from the lower Euphrates to the mountains of Edom.


Idumea (Isa. 34:5, 6; Ezek. 35:15). "The field of Edom" (Gen. 32:3), "the land of Edom" (Gen. 36:16), was mountainous (Obad. 8, 9, 19, 21). It was called the land, or "the mountain of Seir," the rough hills on the east side of the Arabah. It extended from the head of the Gulf of Akabah, the Elanitic gulf, to the foot of the Dead Sea (1 Kings 9:26), and contained, among other cities, the rock-hewn Sela (q.v.), generally known by the Greek name Petra (2 Kings 14:7).

GENESIS 2:13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that surrounds the whole land of Ethiopia.


Gihon River that flows around the whole land of Cush. (Gen 2:13) E. of Mesopotamia.

GENESIS 2:14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

( A river that runs east of Assyria. Is Assyria in Africa?)

Wycliff Heddekel

Second major river of Mesopotamia


If you want to know what the Israelites looked like.

#1 Go to the land areas of the Iraqis.

#2 Look at the ancient paintings of these native people.

#3 Look at the anthropology findings ot the people of Iraq in the periods of 250 B.C. to 4000 B.C.

Now find these rivers and land marks in Africa or know THEY who say Eden was in Africa are either ignorant or THEY are liars

Eden is not in Africa, Adam, Eve, Noah, Sham, Ham, Japeth, Eber ( father of all Hebrews), Terah, Abraham and Sarah were all Chaldeans or Iraqis by it's modern name.

Now do your anthropology research of the middle east native people who hung out in the Old Testament period ( before European invaders began their rape, pillage and plunder ).

Look at the people of Iraq (who are not polluted with Europeans ) and know what ALL the descendants of Abraham and rest of the Arabs looked like at the time the Old Testament events took place.